Talk:Comedy drama
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[edit]What about Anywhere But Here, Raising Helen, or Birdman? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C8:C001:8A3A:14F9:65F:89A3:7BB9 (talk) 00:36, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- What about them? This is an article that attempts to describe what a comedy-drama is. There are a few examples. We surely cannot serve everybody's preferred example of a comedy-drama. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Requested move 4 April 2022
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved. Though "dramedy" has become a popular term in North America, supporters have successfully demonstrated that it is not a commonly used term in other English-speaking regions, in comparison to the proposed "comedy drama" which is recognizable worldwide. (non-admin closure) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 17:56, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
Dramedy → Comedy drama – "Dramedy" is an informal portmanteau, similar to romedy. The article was moved without any consensus, and that must be reverted. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:06, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Dramedy" is a well-established linguistic blend that is the most common name for the subject. oknazevad (talk) 09:50, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support per Google Trends. Esolo5002 (talk) 12:20, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose in the Oxford and Cambridge dictionaries, feel free to check if your nom reason is ridiculous before you make it. The Google trends lookup is not convincing on this one, either: besides "dramedy" being the accepted official word and so moot regardless, Escolo's search compares "dramedy" being used to "comedy" and "drama" (yes, as two words) appearing together. In how many other random situations does that happen, yeah. Kingsif (talk) 12:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- The "official" definition is irrelevant, Wikipedia focuses on what is commonly used. Even combined comedy drama wins. Esolo5002 (talk) 12:40, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Actually, your case could be strengthened further. Your link is filtered for just the United States, so changing to Worldwide, "comedy drama" outpaces "dramedy" completely. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 14:07, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- The "official" definition is irrelevant, Wikipedia focuses on what is commonly used. Even combined comedy drama wins. Esolo5002 (talk) 12:40, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose - Every single reference on this page uses "dramedy". Including the dictionary definitions noted above. So, following policy, that's where the page is. Oh and as an aside: WP:GOOGLEHITS... - jc37 14:18, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support per Esolo5002's Google Trends, plus "dramedy" is overly WP:COLLOQUIAL. I have no problem with outlining "dramedy" in comedy drama as an available shorthand, but I find it too "clever" to warrant as an actual article title. One comparison I can think of is cli-fi, which is so distilled as to not say anything clear-cut to the layperson readership, and it's rightfully at climate fiction. I guess sci-fi would be an even better example where it can make sense to more people, but it's still more comprehensive as a whole to write out fully (which it is, at science fiction). That same fullness works best here. We're not stuck between "dramedy" and "genre that combines comedy and drama", we have the pre-existing middle ground of just saying "comedy drama", which is hardly that long and conveys much more information than just "dramedy". Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 02:53, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support per Erik. While both the terms are used interchangeably, comedy drama is more explanatory and descriptive for an article title. -- Ab207 (talk) 17:02, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Dramedy is informal slang that still doesn't have wide use. Comedy-drama is a much more widely used term that is far more descriptive and straight forward. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 17:36, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support for the same reasons as stated above, but also that the word's use seems to be limited to North America. If we consult the contentious Google Trends again, we can get a good feel for just how little used the word is in the UK. Regarding the terms used in the page's sources, I think there's good scope for this page to be expanded and become less US-centric. Humbledaisy (talk) 11:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support while they do both have substantial usage, "dramedy" certainly isn't dominant (especially outside the US), "comedy drama" is much more descriptive to someone who isn't familiar with the term and has a much longer history ("dramedy" doesn't seem to be used at all before the 1980s). Hut 8.5 18:15, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. Dramedy is the common name and no more colloquial than sitcom. Calidum 02:29, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- While that's a good example to bring up, literally nobody writes "situational comedy", whereas we do see a mix of "dramedy" and "comedy drama". As mentioned above with Google Trends, "comedy drama" outpaces "dramedy" worldwide, and while some stuff like "sci-fi" can exist, we still write that out because "sci-fi" is not used exclusively to replace "science fiction". Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 14:11, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- I appreciate that that is your opinion, but do you happen to have any verifiable reliable sources which state that? So far, all the sources shown thus far say dramedy. - jc37 05:42, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- I have added two sources mentioning comedy drama with or without the hyphen. Those in favour of the move may find additional sources. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:57, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- I appreciate that that is your opinion, but do you happen to have any verifiable reliable sources which state that? So far, all the sources shown thus far say dramedy. - jc37 05:42, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- While that's a good example to bring up, literally nobody writes "situational comedy", whereas we do see a mix of "dramedy" and "comedy drama". As mentioned above with Google Trends, "comedy drama" outpaces "dramedy" worldwide, and while some stuff like "sci-fi" can exist, we still write that out because "sci-fi" is not used exclusively to replace "science fiction". Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 14:11, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support per Erik. Andrzejbanas (talk) 06:06, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Notable examples are solely American
[edit]Why are all the examples of "notable" film and television comedy-dramas only American? Are there no "notable" comedy-dramas from Canada, Mexico, Australia, United Kingdom, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Korea, Japan? Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 05:57, 26 November 2024 (UTC)